I’m in the process of upgrading to 10.04 on most of my installations. Three down, three to go. I’ll post a new guide with the updated packages and steps after I’m done within the next few days.

Only a fix: on my installation, it’s not vn4-common but vn4server

Greetings from Spain

The option that I am using is -rfbauth not -auth. I haven’t tried it with -auth at all.

What version of x11vnc is this for? It appears that the version supplied with xubuntu 9.1 is 0.9.3. With that version, I could not get the -auth option to work. It would let me connect, but as soon as I entered credentials it would disconnect VNC and the gdm logon dialog would reappear on display 0. It seems as though gdm the auth file is randomly generated folder in 9.1.

I downloaded and built x11vnc 0.9.8 and used the “-auth guess” option, which seems to work reliably. I’ve only restarted, connected, and logged on three times so I may be wrong ;-). I also used the “cursor -arrow” switch to change it from the X to an arrow.

Been busy with other projects so I haven’t done much with it in a few months and it has been incredibly stable for me. I would love to know how to get rid of the PC Directory still.

Christoph :

As one of Fedora’s Xfce maintainers I feel I have to speak up on this one.

The install on my laptop would have made a Linux novice ditch Fedora completely and run screaming from it.

Can you explain this a little? Have you installed from DVD or from a Live-CD? If so, which one? The Gnome or the Xfce spin?

All of my updates where done from the (full) DVD.

I rebooted the machine and “GRUB” was filling the screen as fast as the poor laptops GeForce4 chipset could pump it out.

Have you filed a bug report, so we can take a look at this?

I did not file a bug report. I did a bit of searching and found others had reported similar problems, so I didn’t feel the need to add to the noise with another “me too” since I knew how to work around it.

I was a bit disappointed to not see any suspend or hibernate options, which was part of my decision to do my laptop first since these were included in the latest Xfce.

Huh? Both suspend and hibernate are in the logout dialog. In addition and unlike in Xubuntu, there is xfce4-power-manager in the repos, even in the default install of the Xfce spin.

As I said before, they weren’t there after the initial upgrade. After I did the yum clean and yum update they appeared. It was just one more of those things that seemed to lack polish. I installed Fedora 10 on my laptop from the DVD and use Xfce, I did the upgrade using the DVD. It should have upgraded all of my packages from the DVD, but it didn’t.

You can only upgrade to Fedora 11 from a fully updated Fedora 10.

Erm, no, this is not correct. You can even update from Fedora 6 to 11. BTW: Why not use preupgrade instead of yum? This is the recommended and supported way.

The upgrade notes do not say this is the recommended way to upgrade. I’ve always done DVD upgrades since they seem to be a bit faster than downloading, especially for the first week or so its faster to get a bittorrent of the DVD, upgrade using the disk and then upgrade via yum.

Also, from the Fedora 11 Upgrade Notes at http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11/en-US/sect-Release_Notes-Installation_Notes-Upgrade_Notes.html :

Upgrading from Fedora 9 directly to Fedora 11 using yum is not possible, you must upgrade to Fedora 10 first, then upgrade to Fedora 11. See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq for more information. You can also use preupgrade to upgrade directly to Fedora 11 using anaconda, minimizing the system downtime by downloading the packages in advance.

I haven’t even bothered with it yet, I’ve been too busy trying to get a stable Xfce again.

What exactly was crashy? There were some oddities due to the Xfce 4.4 to 4.6 migration, e. g. missing icons in the panel, but I haven’t heard any complaintants about the stability of Xfce. You would have had the same problems with every other distro as well and if you directly upgraded to F11 with released updates, you would have gotten Xfce 4.6.1, which solves many of the problems

Part of why I switched to Xfce was that it was quite stable. It wasn’t in Fedora 11 — for me. I write a lot of code using vim and maintain a lot of systems via ssh. When one Terminal crashed, they all crashed. After the 3rd time of that happening I had had enough.

Something that I figured out yesterday was that after upgrading to Fedora 11 from Fedora 10, it didn’t actually upgrade everything. I had to do another “yum clean all” and “yum update” to download another GB of files before I was actually updated.

Just what I said, looks like you didn’t have the Fedora 11 Updates repo enabled while doing the update. I can only recommend people to use preupgrade or, if they really want to upgrade with yum, read the documentation first.

I always read the release notes and have been using Fedora since it was RedHat Linux 3 (not RHEL, but RedHat Linux). My upgrade was on a stock RedHat 10 system using the DVD — no third party repos or anything else installed. The upgrade process *should* have worked cleanly from the DVD.

The option MiscAlwaysShowTabs if set to TRUE now causes the app to segfault on startup.

Yeah, sorry about that, but at least it’s fixed now. Still not fixed in other distros AFAIK.

The unstable nature of Terminal, after relying on its usefulness and speed for the last year or so drove me crazy. I’ve actually stopped using Terminal because of that and switched back to using mrxvt. Its just as fast and is actually a bit cleaner than Terminal. I must admit, it was a bit strange going back to mrxvt after all these years.

Before I was using multi-gnome-terminal, but seems to no longer be maintained. I then used gnome-terminal and finally the Xfce Terminal. Its been at least 5 or 6 years since I used mrxvt. I probably won’t switch away from it for the foreseeable future.

Thunar also doesn’t seem to support LUKS encrypted volumes, either. Patches were approved for adding that about 4 months ago.

If they were approved upstream, then they are definitely in Fedora. Can you please direct me to the relevant Xfce bug and tell me what patch you think is missing?

It actually worked in F10, which is what confused me. They were there, then I did the upgrade, then they weren’t. I might be remembering that wrong, though. I’ve made a lot of changes over the last few months to my laptop, my home desktop and my office desktop. Fedora is now not on any of them, I’ve switched to Xubuntu on each of them.

I don’t hate Fedora, but the last few releases seem to have had a lot of issues. The cutting edge has really cut a lot of productivity. Just as I finally get a stable system, its no longer in the release cycle. I like having the latest and greatest because I often have projects that require the latest version of libraries to compile, etc.

Fedora/RedHat have served me very well over the years, and I still prefer RHEL/CentOS for server environments — because I know they’ll be stable.

The install on my laptop would have made a Linux novice ditch Fedora completely and run screaming from it.

Can you explain this a little? Have you installed from DVD or from a Live-CD? If so, which one? The Gnome or the Xfce spin?

I rebooted the machine and “GRUB” was filling the screen as fast as the poor laptops GeForce4 chipset could pump it out.

Have you filed a bug report, so we can take a look at this?

I was a bit disappointed to not see any suspend or hibernate options, which was part of my decision to do my laptop first since these were included in the latest Xfce.

Huh? Both suspend and hibernate are in the logout dialog. In addition and unlike in Xubuntu, there is xfce4-power-manager in the repos, even in the default install of the Xfce spin.

You can only upgrade to Fedora 11 from a fully updated Fedora 10.

Erm, no, this is not correct. You can even update from Fedora 6 to 11. BTW: Why not use preupgrade instead of yum? This is the recommended and supported way.

I haven’t even bothered with it yet, I’ve been too busy trying to get a stable Xfce again.

What exactly was crashy? There were some oddities due to the Xfce 4.4 to 4.6 migration, e. g. missing icons in the panel, but I haven’t heard any complaintants about the stability of Xfce. You would have had the same problems with every other distro as well and if you directly upgraded to F11 with released updates, you would have gotten Xfce 4.6.1, which solves many of the problems

Something that I figured out yesterday was that after upgrading to Fedora 11 from Fedora 10, it didn’t actually upgrade everything. I had to do another “yum clean all” and “yum update” to download another GB of files before I was actually updated.

Just what I said, looks like you didn’t have the Fedora 11 Updates repo enabled while doing the update. I can only recommend people to use preupgrade or, if they really want to upgrade with yum, read the documentation first.

The option MiscAlwaysShowTabs if set to TRUE now causes the app to segfault on startup.

Yeah, sorry about that, but at least it’s fixed now. Still not fixed in other distros AFAIK.

Thunar also doesn’t seem to support LUKS encrypted volumes, either. Patches were approved for adding that about 4 months ago.

If they were approved upstream, then they are definitely in Fedora. Can you please direct me to the relevant Xfce bug and tell me what patch you think is missing?

Re Mediatomb:

I just wish there was an option to prevent the “PC Directory” from being sent to the renderers.

You can achive that with this tag in your config.xml: